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We Think Conduent (NASDAQ:CNDT) Is Taking Some Risk With Its Debt
Some say volatility, rather than debt, is the best way to think about risk as an investor, but Warren Buffett famously said that 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' So it seems the smart money knows that debt - which is usually involved in bankruptcies - is a very important factor, when you assess how risky a company is. Importantly, Conduent Incorporated (NASDAQ:CNDT) does carry debt. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
When Is Debt Dangerous?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. Of course, plenty of companies use debt to fund growth, without any negative consequences. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
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What Is Conduent's Net Debt?
The image below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that Conduent had debt of US$1.29b at the end of June 2022, a reduction from US$1.41b over a year. However, because it has a cash reserve of US$519.0m, its net debt is less, at about US$770.0m.
How Healthy Is Conduent's Balance Sheet?
We can see from the most recent balance sheet that Conduent had liabilities of US$895.0m falling due within a year, and liabilities of US$1.64b due beyond that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of US$519.0m as well as receivables valued at US$882.0m due within 12 months. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by US$1.13b.
Given this deficit is actually higher than the company's market capitalization of US$867.5m, we think shareholders really should watch Conduent's debt levels, like a parent watching their child ride a bike for the first time. Hypothetically, extremely heavy dilution would be required if the company were forced to pay down its liabilities by raising capital at the current share price.
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
Even though Conduent's debt is only 2.4, its interest cover is really very low at 1.5. In large part that's it has so much depreciation and amortisation. While companies often boast that these charges are non-cash, most such businesses will therefore require ongoing investment (that is not expensed.) Either way there's no doubt the stock is using meaningful leverage. Sadly, Conduent's EBIT actually dropped 5.7% in the last year. If that earnings trend continues then its debt load will grow heavy like the heart of a polar bear watching its sole cub. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Conduent's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. Over the last three years, Conduent actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT. There's nothing better than incoming cash when it comes to staying in your lenders' good graces.
Our View
To be frank both Conduent's level of total liabilities and its track record of covering its interest expense with its EBIT make us rather uncomfortable with its debt levels. But on the bright side, its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow is a good sign, and makes us more optimistic. Once we consider all the factors above, together, it seems to us that Conduent's debt is making it a bit risky. Some people like that sort of risk, but we're mindful of the potential pitfalls, so we'd probably prefer it carry less debt. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. We've identified 3 warning signs with Conduent (at least 2 which are a bit concerning) , and understanding them should be part of your investment process.
At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free.
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About NasdaqGS:CNDT
Conduent
Provides digital business solutions and services for the commercial, government, and transportation spectrum in the United States, Europe, and internationally.
Undervalued with adequate balance sheet.