Warren Buffett famously said, 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin. Importantly, 1-800-FLOWERS.COM, Inc. (NASDAQ:FLWS) does carry debt. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
When Is Debt A Problem?
Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we examine debt levels, we first consider both cash and debt levels, together.
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What Is 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's Debt?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that as of October 2022 1-800-FLOWERS.COM had US$298.2m of debt, an increase on US$181.8m, over one year. However, it does have US$9.44m in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about US$288.7m.
A Look At 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's Liabilities
Zooming in on the latest balance sheet data, we can see that 1-800-FLOWERS.COM had liabilities of US$419.5m due within 12 months and liabilities of US$319.5m due beyond that. On the other hand, it had cash of US$9.44m and US$49.0m worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities total US$680.5m more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
Given this deficit is actually higher than the company's market capitalization of US$600.4m, we think shareholders really should watch 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's debt levels, like a parent watching their child ride a bike for the first time. Hypothetically, extremely heavy dilution would be required if the company were forced to pay down its liabilities by raising capital at the current share price.
In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
1-800-FLOWERS.COM's debt is 4.1 times its EBITDA, and its EBIT cover its interest expense 2.9 times over. Taken together this implies that, while we wouldn't want to see debt levels rise, we think it can handle its current leverage. Worse, 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's EBIT was down 86% over the last year. If earnings continue to follow that trajectory, paying off that debt load will be harder than convincing us to run a marathon in the rain. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.
Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it. So we always check how much of that EBIT is translated into free cash flow. In the last three years, 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's free cash flow amounted to 47% of its EBIT, less than we'd expect. That weak cash conversion makes it more difficult to handle indebtedness.
Our View
Mulling over 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's attempt at (not) growing its EBIT, we're certainly not enthusiastic. Having said that, its ability to convert EBIT to free cash flow isn't such a worry. Overall, it seems to us that 1-800-FLOWERS.COM's balance sheet is really quite a risk to the business. For this reason we're pretty cautious about the stock, and we think shareholders should keep a close eye on its liquidity. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. Case in point: We've spotted 4 warning signs for 1-800-FLOWERS.COM you should be aware of, and 1 of them makes us a bit uncomfortable.
If you're interested in investing in businesses that can grow profits without the burden of debt, then check out this free list of growing businesses that have net cash on the balance sheet.
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About NasdaqGS:FLWS
1-800-FLOWERS.COM
Provides gifts for various occasions in the United States and internationally.
Undervalued with moderate growth potential.