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Logan Group (HKG:3380) Has Debt But No Earnings; Should You Worry?

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The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. As with many other companies Logan Group Company Limited (HKG:3380) makes use of debt. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?

What Risk Does Debt Bring?

Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. Ultimately, if the company can't fulfill its legal obligations to repay debt, shareholders could walk away with nothing. However, a more usual (but still expensive) situation is where a company must dilute shareholders at a cheap share price simply to get debt under control. Having said that, the most common situation is where a company manages its debt reasonably well - and to its own advantage. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.

See our latest analysis for Logan Group

How Much Debt Does Logan Group Carry?

As you can see below, at the end of June 2024, Logan Group had CN¥107.3b of debt, up from CN¥101.1b a year ago. Click the image for more detail. However, because it has a cash reserve of CN¥9.50b, its net debt is less, at about CN¥97.8b.

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SEHK:3380 Debt to Equity History December 2nd 2024

How Healthy Is Logan Group's Balance Sheet?

According to the last reported balance sheet, Logan Group had liabilities of CN¥159.4b due within 12 months, and liabilities of CN¥36.6b due beyond 12 months. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of CN¥9.50b as well as receivables valued at CN¥28.4b due within 12 months. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by CN¥158.1b.

This deficit casts a shadow over the CN¥5.63b company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals. So we definitely think shareholders need to watch this one closely. At the end of the day, Logan Group would probably need a major re-capitalization if its creditors were to demand repayment. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Logan Group's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.

In the last year Logan Group wasn't profitable at an EBIT level, but managed to grow its revenue by 11%, to CN¥47b. We usually like to see faster growth from unprofitable companies, but each to their own.

Caveat Emptor

Over the last twelve months Logan Group produced an earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) loss. Its EBIT loss was a whopping CN¥7.6b. When you combine this with the very significant balance sheet liabilities mentioned above, we are so wary of it that we are basically at a loss for the right words. Like every long-shot we're sure it has a glossy presentation outlining its blue-sky potential. But the reality is that it is low on liquid assets relative to liabilities, and it lost CN¥8.6b in the last year. So we're not very excited about owning this stock. Its too risky for us. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. Case in point: We've spotted 3 warning signs for Logan Group you should be aware of, and 2 of them can't be ignored.

If you're interested in investing in businesses that can grow profits without the burden of debt, then check out this free list of growing businesses that have net cash on the balance sheet.

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