The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. As with many other companies Indra Sistemas, S.A. (BME:IDR) makes use of debt. But is this debt a concern to shareholders?
What Risk Does Debt Bring?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we examine debt levels, we first consider both cash and debt levels, together.
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What Is Indra Sistemas's Debt?
You can click the graphic below for the historical numbers, but it shows that Indra Sistemas had €975.6m of debt in December 2022, down from €1.48b, one year before. However, because it has a cash reserve of €974.1m, its net debt is less, at about €1.53m.
A Look At Indra Sistemas' Liabilities
The latest balance sheet data shows that Indra Sistemas had liabilities of €2.19b due within a year, and liabilities of €1.34b falling due after that. Offsetting this, it had €974.1m in cash and €1.29b in receivables that were due within 12 months. So it has liabilities totalling €1.27b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
This is a mountain of leverage relative to its market capitalization of €2.04b. This suggests shareholders would be heavily diluted if the company needed to shore up its balance sheet in a hurry. Carrying virtually no net debt, Indra Sistemas has a very light debt load indeed.
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Indra Sistemas's debt of just 0.0038 times EBITDA is really very modest. And EBIT easily covered the interest expense 7.7 times over, lending force to that view. Another good sign is that Indra Sistemas has been able to increase its EBIT by 24% in twelve months, making it easier to pay down debt. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Indra Sistemas can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, a company can only pay off debt with cold hard cash, not accounting profits. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. Over the last three years, Indra Sistemas actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT. That sort of strong cash conversion gets us as excited as the crowd when the beat drops at a Daft Punk concert.
Our View
The good news is that Indra Sistemas's demonstrated ability to convert EBIT to free cash flow delights us like a fluffy puppy does a toddler. But truth be told we feel its level of total liabilities does undermine this impression a bit. Zooming out, Indra Sistemas seems to use debt quite reasonably; and that gets the nod from us. While debt does bring risk, when used wisely it can also bring a higher return on equity. Over time, share prices tend to follow earnings per share, so if you're interested in Indra Sistemas, you may well want to click here to check an interactive graph of its earnings per share history.
If, after all that, you're more interested in a fast growing company with a rock-solid balance sheet, then check out our list of net cash growth stocks without delay.
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About BME:IDR
Indra Sistemas
Operates as a technology and consulting company for aerospace, defense, and mobility business worldwide.
Very undervalued with flawless balance sheet.