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Here's Why Thryv Holdings (NASDAQ:THRY) Can Manage Its Debt Responsibly
The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. We note that Thryv Holdings, Inc. (NASDAQ:THRY) does have debt on its balance sheet. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
What Risk Does Debt Bring?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. However, a more common (but still painful) scenario is that it has to raise new equity capital at a low price, thus permanently diluting shareholders. Having said that, the most common situation is where a company manages its debt reasonably well - and to its own advantage. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
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What Is Thryv Holdings's Net Debt?
As you can see below, Thryv Holdings had US$539.2m of debt at June 2022, down from US$647.9m a year prior. However, it does have US$13.7m in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about US$525.5m.
A Look At Thryv Holdings' Liabilities
The latest balance sheet data shows that Thryv Holdings had liabilities of US$293.6m due within a year, and liabilities of US$615.1m falling due after that. Offsetting this, it had US$13.7m in cash and US$315.0m in receivables that were due within 12 months. So it has liabilities totalling US$580.0m more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
This is a mountain of leverage relative to its market capitalization of US$927.8m. Should its lenders demand that it shore up the balance sheet, shareholders would likely face severe dilution.
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Thryv Holdings's net debt is sitting at a very reasonable 1.7 times its EBITDA, while its EBIT covered its interest expense just 4.0 times last year. While that doesn't worry us too much, it does suggest the interest payments are somewhat of a burden. It is well worth noting that Thryv Holdings's EBIT shot up like bamboo after rain, gaining 48% in the last twelve months. That'll make it easier to manage its debt. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Thryv Holdings can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.
Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. Over the last three years, Thryv Holdings recorded free cash flow worth a fulsome 86% of its EBIT, which is stronger than we'd usually expect. That positions it well to pay down debt if desirable to do so.
Our View
The good news is that Thryv Holdings's demonstrated ability to convert EBIT to free cash flow delights us like a fluffy puppy does a toddler. But truth be told we feel its interest cover does undermine this impression a bit. Looking at all the aforementioned factors together, it strikes us that Thryv Holdings can handle its debt fairly comfortably. On the plus side, this leverage can boost shareholder returns, but the potential downside is more risk of loss, so it's worth monitoring the balance sheet. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. To that end, you should learn about the 3 warning signs we've spotted with Thryv Holdings (including 1 which doesn't sit too well with us) .
Of course, if you're the type of investor who prefers buying stocks without the burden of debt, then don't hesitate to discover our exclusive list of net cash growth stocks, today.
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About NasdaqCM:THRY
Thryv Holdings
Provides digital marketing solutions and cloud-based tools to the small-to-medium sized businesses in the United States.
Very undervalued with adequate balance sheet.