Some say volatility, rather than debt, is the best way to think about risk as an investor, but Warren Buffett famously said that 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. We can see that Hulic Co., Ltd. (TSE:3003) does use debt in its business. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
When Is Debt Dangerous?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. Of course, debt can be an important tool in businesses, particularly capital heavy businesses. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
What Is Hulic's Net Debt?
As you can see below, at the end of September 2025, Hulic had JP¥2.21t of debt, up from JP¥1.76t a year ago. Click the image for more detail. However, it does have JP¥83.9b in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about JP¥2.13t.
A Look At Hulic's Liabilities
We can see from the most recent balance sheet that Hulic had liabilities of JP¥516.6b falling due within a year, and liabilities of JP¥2.02t due beyond that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of JP¥83.9b as well as receivables valued at JP¥19.2b due within 12 months. So it has liabilities totalling JP¥2.44t more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
This deficit casts a shadow over the JP¥1.31t company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals. So we'd watch its balance sheet closely, without a doubt. After all, Hulic would likely require a major re-capitalisation if it had to pay its creditors today.
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In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
As it happens Hulic has a fairly concerning net debt to EBITDA ratio of 10.6 but very strong interest coverage of 12.8. This means that unless the company has access to very cheap debt, that interest expense will likely grow in the future. We note that Hulic grew its EBIT by 26% in the last year, and that should make it easier to pay down debt, going forward. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Hulic can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.
Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it. So the logical step is to look at the proportion of that EBIT that is matched by actual free cash flow. Over the last three years, Hulic recorded negative free cash flow, in total. Debt is far more risky for companies with unreliable free cash flow, so shareholders should be hoping that the past expenditure will produce free cash flow in the future.
Our View
On the face of it, Hulic's net debt to EBITDA left us tentative about the stock, and its level of total liabilities was no more enticing than the one empty restaurant on the busiest night of the year. But on the bright side, its interest cover is a good sign, and makes us more optimistic. Overall, we think it's fair to say that Hulic has enough debt that there are some real risks around the balance sheet. If everything goes well that may pay off but the downside of this debt is a greater risk of permanent losses. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. Be aware that Hulic is showing 2 warning signs in our investment analysis , and 1 of those is significant...
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