Some say volatility, rather than debt, is the best way to think about risk as an investor, but Warren Buffett famously said that 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. Importantly, Pernod Ricard SA (EPA:RI) does carry debt. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
When Is Debt A Problem?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. Having said that, the most common situation is where a company manages its debt reasonably well - and to its own advantage. When we think about a company's use of debt, we first look at cash and debt together.
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What Is Pernod Ricard's Net Debt?
As you can see below, at the end of December 2020, Pernod Ricard had €9.51b of debt, up from €8.87b a year ago. Click the image for more detail. On the flip side, it has €1.96b in cash leading to net debt of about €7.55b.
How Strong Is Pernod Ricard's Balance Sheet?
According to the last reported balance sheet, Pernod Ricard had liabilities of €4.50b due within 12 months, and liabilities of €12.6b due beyond 12 months. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of €1.96b as well as receivables valued at €2.16b due within 12 months. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by €13.0b.
Pernod Ricard has a very large market capitalization of €41.5b, so it could very likely raise cash to ameliorate its balance sheet, if the need arose. But we definitely want to keep our eyes open to indications that its debt is bringing too much risk.
In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Pernod Ricard's debt is 3.3 times its EBITDA, and its EBIT cover its interest expense 6.9 times over. This suggests that while the debt levels are significant, we'd stop short of calling them problematic. Shareholders should be aware that Pernod Ricard's EBIT was down 24% last year. If that earnings trend continues then paying off its debt will be about as easy as herding cats on to a roller coaster. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Pernod Ricard's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.
Finally, a company can only pay off debt with cold hard cash, not accounting profits. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. Looking at the most recent three years, Pernod Ricard recorded free cash flow of 49% of its EBIT, which is weaker than we'd expect. That's not great, when it comes to paying down debt.
Our View
Pernod Ricard's struggle to grow its EBIT had us second guessing its balance sheet strength, but the other data-points we considered were relatively redeeming. But on the bright side, its ability to to cover its interest expense with its EBIT isn't too shabby at all. Taking the abovementioned factors together we do think Pernod Ricard's debt poses some risks to the business. While that debt can boost returns, we think the company has enough leverage now. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. These risks can be hard to spot. Every company has them, and we've spotted 4 warning signs for Pernod Ricard (of which 1 doesn't sit too well with us!) you should know about.
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About ENXTPA:RI
Undervalued second-rate dividend payer.