Some say volatility, rather than debt, is the best way to think about risk as an investor, but Warren Buffett famously said that 'Volatility is far from synonymous with risk.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. As with many other companies Thales S.A. (EPA:HO) makes use of debt. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
When Is Debt Dangerous?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. In the worst case scenario, a company can go bankrupt if it cannot pay its creditors. However, a more usual (but still expensive) situation is where a company must dilute shareholders at a cheap share price simply to get debt under control. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we examine debt levels, we first consider both cash and debt levels, together.
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What Is Thales's Debt?
As you can see below, at the end of June 2024, Thales had €7.00b of debt, up from €4.32b a year ago. Click the image for more detail. However, it also had €3.82b in cash, and so its net debt is €3.19b.
How Healthy Is Thales' Balance Sheet?
The latest balance sheet data shows that Thales had liabilities of €23.6b due within a year, and liabilities of €7.23b falling due after that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of €3.82b as well as receivables valued at €10.0b due within 12 months. So it has liabilities totalling €16.9b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
This deficit isn't so bad because Thales is worth a massive €30.0b, and thus could probably raise enough capital to shore up its balance sheet, if the need arose. But we definitely want to keep our eyes open to indications that its debt is bringing too much risk.
In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Thales's net debt is only 1.3 times its EBITDA. And its EBIT covers its interest expense a whopping 16.4 times over. So we're pretty relaxed about its super-conservative use of debt. The good news is that Thales has increased its EBIT by 4.6% over twelve months, which should ease any concerns about debt repayment. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Thales can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So it's worth checking how much of that EBIT is backed by free cash flow. Over the last three years, Thales actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT. There's nothing better than incoming cash when it comes to staying in your lenders' good graces.
Our View
The good news is that Thales's demonstrated ability to cover its interest expense with its EBIT delights us like a fluffy puppy does a toddler. But truth be told we feel its level of total liabilities does undermine this impression a bit. All these things considered, it appears that Thales can comfortably handle its current debt levels. On the plus side, this leverage can boost shareholder returns, but the potential downside is more risk of loss, so it's worth monitoring the balance sheet. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. For example - Thales has 3 warning signs we think you should be aware of.
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About ENXTPA:HO
Thales
Provides various solutions in the defence and security, aerospace and space, digital identity and security, and transport markets worldwide.
Reasonable growth potential with adequate balance sheet and pays a dividend.