David Iben put it well when he said, 'Volatility is not a risk we care about. What we care about is avoiding the permanent loss of capital.' So it seems the smart money knows that debt - which is usually involved in bankruptcies - is a very important factor, when you assess how risky a company is. As with many other companies Talgo, S.A. (BME:TLGO) makes use of debt. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
What Risk Does Debt Bring?
Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy. Part and parcel of capitalism is the process of 'creative destruction' where failed businesses are mercilessly liquidated by their bankers. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. Of course, debt can be an important tool in businesses, particularly capital heavy businesses. The first step when considering a company's debt levels is to consider its cash and debt together.
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What Is Talgo's Net Debt?
As you can see below, Talgo had €313.3m of debt, at December 2021, which is about the same as the year before. You can click the chart for greater detail. However, because it has a cash reserve of €253.0m, its net debt is less, at about €60.2m.
How Healthy Is Talgo's Balance Sheet?
According to the last reported balance sheet, Talgo had liabilities of €401.1m due within 12 months, and liabilities of €339.5m due beyond 12 months. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of €253.0m as well as receivables valued at €381.1m due within 12 months. So its liabilities total €106.4m more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
This deficit isn't so bad because Talgo is worth €486.7m, and thus could probably raise enough capital to shore up its balance sheet, if the need arose. But we definitely want to keep our eyes open to indications that its debt is bringing too much risk.
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Looking at its net debt to EBITDA of 1.2 and interest cover of 5.1 times, it seems to us that Talgo is probably using debt in a pretty reasonable way. But the interest payments are certainly sufficient to have us thinking about how affordable its debt is. We also note that Talgo improved its EBIT from a last year's loss to a positive €41m. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if Talgo can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it. So it's worth checking how much of the earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) is backed by free cash flow. Over the last year, Talgo reported free cash flow worth 11% of its EBIT, which is really quite low. That limp level of cash conversion undermines its ability to manage and pay down debt.
Our View
Talgo's conversion of EBIT to free cash flow was a real negative on this analysis, although the other factors we considered cast it in a significantly better light. But on the bright side, its ability to handle its debt, based on its EBITDA, isn't too shabby at all. Looking at all the angles mentioned above, it does seem to us that Talgo is a somewhat risky investment as a result of its debt. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since leverage can boost returns on equity, but it is something to be aware of. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. Case in point: We've spotted 1 warning sign for Talgo you should be aware of.
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About BME:TLGO
Talgo
Designs, manufactures, and maintains high-speed light rail vehicles worldwide.
Moderate growth potential with acceptable track record.