Howard Marks put it nicely when he said that, rather than worrying about share price volatility, 'The possibility of permanent loss is the risk I worry about... and every practical investor I know worries about.' When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin. Importantly, TeamViewer SE (ETR:TMV) does carry debt. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
When Is Debt Dangerous?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. In the worst case scenario, a company can go bankrupt if it cannot pay its creditors. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we examine debt levels, we first consider both cash and debt levels, together.
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What Is TeamViewer's Debt?
As you can see below, TeamViewer had €531.7m of debt at September 2023, down from €635.0m a year prior. However, because it has a cash reserve of €85.3m, its net debt is less, at about €446.4m.
How Strong Is TeamViewer's Balance Sheet?
According to the last reported balance sheet, TeamViewer had liabilities of €492.9m due within 12 months, and liabilities of €505.5m due beyond 12 months. On the other hand, it had cash of €85.3m and €12.9m worth of receivables due within a year. So it has liabilities totalling €900.2m more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
While this might seem like a lot, it is not so bad since TeamViewer has a market capitalization of €2.47b, and so it could probably strengthen its balance sheet by raising capital if it needed to. But we definitely want to keep our eyes open to indications that its debt is bringing too much risk.
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). The advantage of this approach is that we take into account both the absolute quantum of debt (with net debt to EBITDA) and the actual interest expenses associated with that debt (with its interest cover ratio).
TeamViewer's net debt to EBITDA ratio of about 2.2 suggests only moderate use of debt. And its commanding EBIT of 19.8 times its interest expense, implies the debt load is as light as a peacock feather. We note that TeamViewer grew its EBIT by 29% in the last year, and that should make it easier to pay down debt, going forward. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if TeamViewer can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, a company can only pay off debt with cold hard cash, not accounting profits. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. Happily for any shareholders, TeamViewer actually produced more free cash flow than EBIT over the last three years. That sort of strong cash conversion gets us as excited as the crowd when the beat drops at a Daft Punk concert.
Our View
The good news is that TeamViewer's demonstrated ability to cover its interest expense with its EBIT delights us like a fluffy puppy does a toddler. And the good news does not stop there, as its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow also supports that impression! Looking at the bigger picture, we think TeamViewer's use of debt seems quite reasonable and we're not concerned about it. While debt does bring risk, when used wisely it can also bring a higher return on equity. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. For example - TeamViewer has 1 warning sign we think you should be aware of.
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About XTRA:TMV
TeamViewer
Develops and distributes remote connectivity solutions worldwide.
Very undervalued with proven track record.