The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. We can see that Empire Company Limited (TSE:EMP.A) does use debt in its business. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
Why Does Debt Bring Risk?
Debt assists a business until the business has trouble paying it off, either with new capital or with free cash flow. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. However, a more common (but still painful) scenario is that it has to raise new equity capital at a low price, thus permanently diluting shareholders. Having said that, the most common situation is where a company manages its debt reasonably well - and to its own advantage. When we examine debt levels, we first consider both cash and debt levels, together.
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What Is Empire's Net Debt?
As you can see below, Empire had CA$1.01b of debt at February 2023, down from CA$1.14b a year prior. However, it does have CA$210.6m in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about CA$801.3m.
A Look At Empire's Liabilities
We can see from the most recent balance sheet that Empire had liabilities of CA$3.72b falling due within a year, and liabilities of CA$7.34b due beyond that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of CA$210.6m as well as receivables valued at CA$866.7m due within 12 months. So it has liabilities totalling CA$9.99b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
When you consider that this deficiency exceeds the company's CA$8.53b market capitalization, you might well be inclined to review the balance sheet intently. In the scenario where the company had to clean up its balance sheet quickly, it seems likely shareholders would suffer extensive dilution.
In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
While Empire's low debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.46 suggests only modest use of debt, the fact that EBIT only covered the interest expense by 4.6 times last year does give us pause. So we'd recommend keeping a close eye on the impact financing costs are having on the business. Sadly, Empire's EBIT actually dropped 4.2% in the last year. If earnings continue on that decline then managing that debt will be difficult like delivering hot soup on a unicycle. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Empire's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. During the last three years, Empire generated free cash flow amounting to a very robust 97% of its EBIT, more than we'd expect. That puts it in a very strong position to pay down debt.
Our View
While Empire's level of total liabilities has us nervous. For example, its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow and net debt to EBITDA give us some confidence in its ability to manage its debt. Looking at all the angles mentioned above, it does seem to us that Empire is a somewhat risky investment as a result of its debt. Not all risk is bad, as it can boost share price returns if it pays off, but this debt risk is worth keeping in mind. Given our hesitation about the stock, it would be good to know if Empire insiders have sold any shares recently. You click here to find out if insiders have sold recently.
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About TSX:EMP.A
Empire
Engages in the food retail and related real estate businesses in Canada.
Established dividend payer and good value.