The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' When we think about how risky a company is, we always like to look at its use of debt, since debt overload can lead to ruin. Importantly, Campbell Soup Company (NASDAQ:CPB) does carry debt. But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt?
When Is Debt A Problem?
Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. While that is not too common, we often do see indebted companies permanently diluting shareholders because lenders force them to raise capital at a distressed price. Of course, plenty of companies use debt to fund growth, without any negative consequences. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
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What Is Campbell Soup's Debt?
As you can see below, at the end of July 2024, Campbell Soup had US$7.18b of debt, up from US$4.68b a year ago. Click the image for more detail. Net debt is about the same, since the it doesn't have much cash.
How Healthy Is Campbell Soup's Balance Sheet?
The latest balance sheet data shows that Campbell Soup had liabilities of US$3.58b due within a year, and liabilities of US$7.86b falling due after that. Offsetting these obligations, it had cash of US$108.0m as well as receivables valued at US$648.0m due within 12 months. So it has liabilities totalling US$10.7b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
This deficit is considerable relative to its very significant market capitalization of US$15.4b, so it does suggest shareholders should keep an eye on Campbell Soup's use of debt. This suggests shareholders would be heavily diluted if the company needed to shore up its balance sheet in a hurry.
In order to size up a company's debt relative to its earnings, we calculate its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) divided by its interest expense (its interest cover). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
Campbell Soup's debt is 4.0 times its EBITDA, and its EBIT cover its interest expense 5.8 times over. Taken together this implies that, while we wouldn't want to see debt levels rise, we think it can handle its current leverage. Notably Campbell Soup's EBIT was pretty flat over the last year. Ideally it can diminish its debt load by kick-starting earnings growth. There's no doubt that we learn most about debt from the balance sheet. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Campbell Soup's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So we always check how much of that EBIT is translated into free cash flow. During the last three years, Campbell Soup produced sturdy free cash flow equating to 59% of its EBIT, about what we'd expect. This free cash flow puts the company in a good position to pay down debt, when appropriate.
Our View
Both Campbell Soup's net debt to EBITDA and its level of total liabilities were discouraging. But its not so bad at converting EBIT to free cash flow. We think that Campbell Soup's debt does make it a bit risky, after considering the aforementioned data points together. That's not necessarily a bad thing, since leverage can boost returns on equity, but it is something to be aware of. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. These risks can be hard to spot. Every company has them, and we've spotted 3 warning signs for Campbell Soup (of which 1 is a bit concerning!) you should know about.
Of course, if you're the type of investor who prefers buying stocks without the burden of debt, then don't hesitate to discover our exclusive list of net cash growth stocks, today.
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About NasdaqGS:CPB
Campbell Soup
Manufactures and markets food and beverage products in the United States and internationally.
Established dividend payer and good value.