The external fund manager backed by Berkshire Hathaway's Charlie Munger, Li Lu, makes no bones about it when he says 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. Importantly, Talent Property Group Limited (HKG:760) does carry debt. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
When Is Debt A Problem?
Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow. Ultimately, if the company can't fulfill its legal obligations to repay debt, shareholders could walk away with nothing. However, a more frequent (but still costly) occurrence is where a company must issue shares at bargain-basement prices, permanently diluting shareholders, just to shore up its balance sheet. By replacing dilution, though, debt can be an extremely good tool for businesses that need capital to invest in growth at high rates of return. When we examine debt levels, we first consider both cash and debt levels, together.
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What Is Talent Property Group's Net Debt?
The image below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that Talent Property Group had debt of CN¥535.5m at the end of June 2022, a reduction from CN¥668.5m over a year. However, it does have CN¥131.8m in cash offsetting this, leading to net debt of about CN¥403.7m.
A Look At Talent Property Group's Liabilities
We can see from the most recent balance sheet that Talent Property Group had liabilities of CN¥1.80b falling due within a year, and liabilities of CN¥586.5m due beyond that. Offsetting this, it had CN¥131.8m in cash and CN¥37.9m in receivables that were due within 12 months. So its liabilities total CN¥2.22b more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
This deficit casts a shadow over the CN¥171.9m company, like a colossus towering over mere mortals. So we'd watch its balance sheet closely, without a doubt. After all, Talent Property Group would likely require a major re-capitalisation if it had to pay its creditors today.
We measure a company's debt load relative to its earnings power by looking at its net debt divided by its earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) and by calculating how easily its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) cover its interest expense (interest cover). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Weak interest cover of 0.89 times and a disturbingly high net debt to EBITDA ratio of 12.5 hit our confidence in Talent Property Group like a one-two punch to the gut. The debt burden here is substantial. Even worse, Talent Property Group saw its EBIT tank 39% over the last 12 months. If earnings keep going like that over the long term, it has a snowball's chance in hell of paying off that debt. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But it is Talent Property Group's earnings that will influence how the balance sheet holds up in the future. So when considering debt, it's definitely worth looking at the earnings trend. Click here for an interactive snapshot.
Finally, a business needs free cash flow to pay off debt; accounting profits just don't cut it. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. During the last two years, Talent Property Group produced sturdy free cash flow equating to 59% of its EBIT, about what we'd expect. This cold hard cash means it can reduce its debt when it wants to.
Our View
To be frank both Talent Property Group's EBIT growth rate and its track record of staying on top of its total liabilities make us rather uncomfortable with its debt levels. But on the bright side, its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow is a good sign, and makes us more optimistic. Taking into account all the aforementioned factors, it looks like Talent Property Group has too much debt. While some investors love that sort of risky play, it's certainly not our cup of tea. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. For example Talent Property Group has 3 warning signs (and 1 which can't be ignored) we think you should know about.
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About SEHK:760
Talent Property Group
An investment holding company, invests in, develops, and manages real estate properties in the People’s Republic of China.
Flawless balance sheet and slightly overvalued.