Howard Marks put it nicely when he said that, rather than worrying about share price volatility, 'The possibility of permanent loss is the risk I worry about... and every practical investor I know worries about.' It's only natural to consider a company's balance sheet when you examine how risky it is, since debt is often involved when a business collapses. As with many other companies Dialog Group Berhad (KLSE:DIALOG) makes use of debt. But the real question is whether this debt is making the company risky.
When Is Debt A Problem?
Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow. Ultimately, if the company can't fulfill its legal obligations to repay debt, shareholders could walk away with nothing. However, a more usual (but still expensive) situation is where a company must dilute shareholders at a cheap share price simply to get debt under control. Of course, debt can be an important tool in businesses, particularly capital heavy businesses. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
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What Is Dialog Group Berhad's Debt?
The image below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that at December 2022 Dialog Group Berhad had debt of RM2.37b, up from RM1.93b in one year. On the flip side, it has RM1.64b in cash leading to net debt of about RM728.4m.
How Healthy Is Dialog Group Berhad's Balance Sheet?
The latest balance sheet data shows that Dialog Group Berhad had liabilities of RM1.32b due within a year, and liabilities of RM1.92b falling due after that. On the other hand, it had cash of RM1.64b and RM820.4m worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities total RM772.9m more than the combination of its cash and short-term receivables.
Of course, Dialog Group Berhad has a market capitalization of RM12.9b, so these liabilities are probably manageable. Having said that, it's clear that we should continue to monitor its balance sheet, lest it change for the worse.
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). This way, we consider both the absolute quantum of the debt, as well as the interest rates paid on it.
Looking at its net debt to EBITDA of 1.4 and interest cover of 5.1 times, it seems to us that Dialog Group Berhad is probably using debt in a pretty reasonable way. But the interest payments are certainly sufficient to have us thinking about how affordable its debt is. Unfortunately, Dialog Group Berhad's EBIT flopped 11% over the last four quarters. If that sort of decline is not arrested, then the managing its debt will be harder than selling broccoli flavoured ice-cream for a premium. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Dialog Group Berhad's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, while the tax-man may adore accounting profits, lenders only accept cold hard cash. So we always check how much of that EBIT is translated into free cash flow. Over the last three years, Dialog Group Berhad recorded negative free cash flow, in total. Debt is usually more expensive, and almost always more risky in the hands of a company with negative free cash flow. Shareholders ought to hope for an improvement.
Our View
Dialog Group Berhad's conversion of EBIT to free cash flow was a real negative on this analysis, although the other factors we considered cast it in a significantly better light. For example, its net debt to EBITDA is relatively strong. When we consider all the factors discussed, it seems to us that Dialog Group Berhad is taking some risks with its use of debt. While that debt can boost returns, we think the company has enough leverage now. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But ultimately, every company can contain risks that exist outside of the balance sheet. Case in point: We've spotted 1 warning sign for Dialog Group Berhad you should be aware of.
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About KLSE:DIALOG
Dialog Group Berhad
An investment holding company, provides integrated technical services to the energy sector in Malaysia Thailand, rest of Asia, Australia, New Zealand, the Middle East, and internationally.
Flawless balance sheet average dividend payer.