Legendary fund manager Li Lu (who Charlie Munger backed) once said, 'The biggest investment risk is not the volatility of prices, but whether you will suffer a permanent loss of capital.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. We note that AGC Inc. (TSE:5201) does have debt on its balance sheet. But the more important question is: how much risk is that debt creating?
When Is Debt Dangerous?
Debt and other liabilities become risky for a business when it cannot easily fulfill those obligations, either with free cash flow or by raising capital at an attractive price. In the worst case scenario, a company can go bankrupt if it cannot pay its creditors. However, a more common (but still painful) scenario is that it has to raise new equity capital at a low price, thus permanently diluting shareholders. Of course, the upside of debt is that it often represents cheap capital, especially when it replaces dilution in a company with the ability to reinvest at high rates of return. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
How Much Debt Does AGC Carry?
The chart below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that AGC had JP¥665.6b in debt in March 2025; about the same as the year before. However, because it has a cash reserve of JP¥94.7b, its net debt is less, at about JP¥570.9b.
A Look At AGC's Liabilities
The latest balance sheet data shows that AGC had liabilities of JP¥704.9b due within a year, and liabilities of JP¥492.8b falling due after that. On the other hand, it had cash of JP¥94.7b and JP¥392.1b worth of receivables due within a year. So it has liabilities totalling JP¥710.9b more than its cash and near-term receivables, combined.
This deficit is considerable relative to its market capitalization of JP¥905.7b, so it does suggest shareholders should keep an eye on AGC's use of debt. Should its lenders demand that it shore up the balance sheet, shareholders would likely face severe dilution.
Check out our latest analysis for AGC
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
AGC's net debt to EBITDA ratio of about 1.9 suggests only moderate use of debt. And its strong interest cover of 20.3 times, makes us even more comfortable. Importantly, AGC grew its EBIT by 42% over the last twelve months, and that growth will make it easier to handle its debt. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if AGC can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. In the last three years, AGC basically broke even on a free cash flow basis. Some might say that's a concern, when it comes considering how easily it would be for it to down debt.
Our View
Both AGC's ability to to cover its interest expense with its EBIT and its EBIT growth rate gave us comfort that it can handle its debt. But truth be told its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow had us nibbling our nails. Looking at all this data makes us feel a little cautious about AGC's debt levels. While debt does have its upside in higher potential returns, we think shareholders should definitely consider how debt levels might make the stock more risky. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. We've identified 1 warning sign with AGC , and understanding them should be part of your investment process.
If you're interested in investing in businesses that can grow profits without the burden of debt, then check out this free list of growing businesses that have net cash on the balance sheet.
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About TSE:5201
AGC
Manufactures and sells glass, electronics, chemicals, automotive, and ceramics worldwide.
Flawless balance sheet and undervalued.
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