Howard Marks put it nicely when he said that, rather than worrying about share price volatility, 'The possibility of permanent loss is the risk I worry about... and every practical investor I know worries about.' So it might be obvious that you need to consider debt, when you think about how risky any given stock is, because too much debt can sink a company. Importantly, AGC Inc. (TSE:5201) does carry debt. But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt?
When Is Debt A Problem?
Generally speaking, debt only becomes a real problem when a company can't easily pay it off, either by raising capital or with its own cash flow. Ultimately, if the company can't fulfill its legal obligations to repay debt, shareholders could walk away with nothing. However, a more usual (but still expensive) situation is where a company must dilute shareholders at a cheap share price simply to get debt under control. Of course, debt can be an important tool in businesses, particularly capital heavy businesses. The first thing to do when considering how much debt a business uses is to look at its cash and debt together.
What Is AGC's Debt?
The chart below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that AGC had JP¥650.8b in debt in June 2025; about the same as the year before. On the flip side, it has JP¥100.5b in cash leading to net debt of about JP¥550.3b.
How Healthy Is AGC's Balance Sheet?
Zooming in on the latest balance sheet data, we can see that AGC had liabilities of JP¥713.2b due within 12 months and liabilities of JP¥491.4b due beyond that. On the other hand, it had cash of JP¥100.5b and JP¥316.3b worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by JP¥787.8b.
This is a mountain of leverage relative to its market capitalization of JP¥1.02t. Should its lenders demand that it shore up the balance sheet, shareholders would likely face severe dilution.
Check out our latest analysis for AGC
We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.
AGC has a low net debt to EBITDA ratio of only 1.3. And its EBIT easily covers its interest expense, being 39.3 times the size. So we're pretty relaxed about its super-conservative use of debt. Although AGC made a loss at the EBIT level, last year, it was also good to see that it generated JP¥245b in EBIT over the last twelve months. The balance sheet is clearly the area to focus on when you are analysing debt. But ultimately the future profitability of the business will decide if AGC can strengthen its balance sheet over time. So if you're focused on the future you can check out this free report showing analyst profit forecasts.
Finally, a company can only pay off debt with cold hard cash, not accounting profits. So it is important to check how much of its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) converts to actual free cash flow. In the last year, AGC created free cash flow amounting to 17% of its EBIT, an uninspiring performance. For us, cash conversion that low sparks a little paranoia about is ability to extinguish debt.
Our View
Neither AGC's ability to convert EBIT to free cash flow nor its level of total liabilities gave us confidence in its ability to take on more debt. But its interest cover tells a very different story, and suggests some resilience. Looking at all the angles mentioned above, it does seem to us that AGC is a somewhat risky investment as a result of its debt. Not all risk is bad, as it can boost share price returns if it pays off, but this debt risk is worth keeping in mind. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. However, not all investment risk resides within the balance sheet - far from it. For example AGC has 2 warning signs (and 1 which can't be ignored) we think you should know about.
If you're interested in investing in businesses that can grow profits without the burden of debt, then check out this free list of growing businesses that have net cash on the balance sheet.
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