Is Schneider Electric (EPA:SU) A Risky Investment?

David Iben put it well when he said, 'Volatility is not a risk we care about. What we care about is avoiding the permanent loss of capital.' So it seems the smart money knows that debt - which is usually involved in bankruptcies - is a very important factor, when you assess how risky a company is. As with many other companies Schneider Electric S.E. (EPA:SU) makes use of debt. But should shareholders be worried about its use of debt?

When Is Debt A Problem?

Debt is a tool to help businesses grow, but if a business is incapable of paying off its lenders, then it exists at their mercy. If things get really bad, the lenders can take control of the business. However, a more common (but still painful) scenario is that it has to raise new equity capital at a low price, thus permanently diluting shareholders. Of course, debt can be an important tool in businesses, particularly capital heavy businesses. When we think about a company's use of debt, we first look at cash and debt together.

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How Much Debt Does Schneider Electric Carry?

The image below, which you can click on for greater detail, shows that at June 2022 Schneider Electric had debt of €12.2b, up from €11.4b in one year. On the flip side, it has €3.03b in cash leading to net debt of about €9.21b.

How Healthy Is Schneider Electric's Balance Sheet?

The latest balance sheet data shows that Schneider Electric had liabilities of €17.9b due within a year, and liabilities of €11.8b falling due after that. On the other hand, it had cash of €3.03b and €10.1b worth of receivables due within a year. So its liabilities outweigh the sum of its cash and (near-term) receivables by €16.5b.

While this might seem like a lot, it is not so bad since Schneider Electric has a huge market capitalization of €72.6b, and so it could probably strengthen its balance sheet by raising capital if it needed to. But it's clear that we should definitely closely examine whether it can manage its debt without dilution.

We use two main ratios to inform us about debt levels relative to earnings. The first is net debt divided by earnings before interest, tax, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA), while the second is how many times its earnings before interest and tax (EBIT) covers its interest expense (or its interest cover, for short). Thus we consider debt relative to earnings both with and without depreciation and amortization expenses.

Schneider Electric's net debt to EBITDA ratio of about 1.6 suggests only moderate use of debt. And its commanding EBIT of 40.4 times its interest expense, implies the debt load is as light as a peacock feather. And we also note warmly that Schneider Electric grew its EBIT by 11% last year, making its debt load easier to handle. When analysing debt levels, the balance sheet is the obvious place to start. But it is future earnings, more than anything, that will determine Schneider Electric's ability to maintain a healthy balance sheet going forward. So if you want to see what the professionals think, you might find this free report on analyst profit forecasts to be interesting.

But our final consideration is also important, because a company cannot pay debt with paper profits; it needs cold hard cash. So we clearly need to look at whether that EBIT is leading to corresponding free cash flow. During the last three years, Schneider Electric produced sturdy free cash flow equating to 72% of its EBIT, about what we'd expect. This free cash flow puts the company in a good position to pay down debt, when appropriate.

Our View

The good news is that Schneider Electric's demonstrated ability to cover its interest expense with its EBIT delights us like a fluffy puppy does a toddler. And the good news does not stop there, as its conversion of EBIT to free cash flow also supports that impression! Taking all this data into account, it seems to us that Schneider Electric takes a pretty sensible approach to debt. While that brings some risk, it can also enhance returns for shareholders. Above most other metrics, we think its important to track how fast earnings per share is growing, if at all. If you've also come to that realization, you're in luck, because today you can view this interactive graph of Schneider Electric's earnings per share history for free.

At the end of the day, it's often better to focus on companies that are free from net debt. You can access our special list of such companies (all with a track record of profit growth). It's free.

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